Recently, I had the privilege of talking with Joe Saunders from the Managing Violence podcast and wanted to share it with readers from The CP Journal.

It was great to join a long list of leaders from the security industry, including people like Tony Blauer, James Hamilton from Gavin De Becker and Associates, and Aaron Mauldin, so if you you haven’t had the chance to take a look at Joe’s show, I certainly recommend it and you can find all of the episodes here.

I enjoyed the conversation and if you’d like to listen to what Joe and I discussed, you can find find it on Spotify and YouTube.